Paul Contradicts Jesus and Bible on Who Is Raptured

Question August 24, 2010

Response August 24, 2010  

The question you ask is whether in that tribulation before the Son of Man appears in heaven are Christians present or will we be raptured away prior to the tribulation. (Pre-trib.) Some believe in post-tribulation that Christians are raptured after the Son of Man appears. This is known as post-trib.

But the truth is that these two views are influenced by Paul, and the correct view is that the evil are raptured or taken away when the Son of Man appears, and Christians remain through the tribulation and thus 'inherit' the earth when the evil are removed. This can be categorized as pre-millenialism...we are waiting for Jesus to set up on earth the milennial kingdom. This was the exclusive view of the early church through the early 300s - obviously because Jesus talked this way, as we shall see. Wikipedia summarizes what I contend is the correct eschatology - because Jesus speaks this way:

The doctrine is called premillennialism because it holds that Jesus’ physical return to earth will occur prior to the inauguration of the millennium. Premillennialism is largely based upon a literal interpretation of Revelation 20:1-6 in the New Testamentwhich describes Jesus’s coming to the earth and subsequent reign at the end of an apocalyptic period oftribulation. It views this future age as a time of fulfillment for the prophetic hope of God’s people as given in the Old Testament. ("Premillenialism" Wikipedia.)

This view was early known as chiailism, but in the 19th Century was called premillenarianism. The early church was exclusively chialistic, not knowing of any theory of any rapture of Christians, let alone a pre-tribulation rapture. This Wikipedia article continues:

Historically Christian premillennialism has also been referred as "chiliasm"...The theological term "premillennialism" did not come into general use until the mid-19th century....For the larger part, Christian eschatology through the 2nd and 3rd centuries was chiliastic.^[9] Many early Christian interpreters applied the earlier Jewish apocalyptic idea of a temporary Messianic kingdom to their interpretation of chapter 20 of John's apocalypse.^[10] Justin Martyr,Irenaeus, and Tertullian all made explicit references to the concept of a thousand year earthly kingdom at Christ’s coming.^[11]

Paul's View 

Paul gets the sequence backwards, and misunderstands who is raptured. Paul says in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, the righteous are taken first in the rapture of the church while the wicked are left behind to endure the tribulation. In 1 Thessalonians 4:17, Paul says the living will be "caught up together with them in the clouds." This is deduced by most to be pre-trib. Thereby Paul's view leads to a lack of preparedness to endure suffering, counting on the easy escape.

The Bible's View If You Ignore Paul

There are over 50 passages of OT that speak of the evil being taken out of the earth, and that the righteous shall inherit the earth as a result.  In Proverbs 10:30, we read: "The godly will never be disturbed, but the wicked will be removed from the land." In Psalm 37: 9-11 we read: 

Similar Message of Jesus

There are many parallel NT texts from Jesus, speaking of separating the wheat and the chaff, where the chaff/tares are taken away first by the angels, leaving the wheat to inherit the earth. See Parable of the Wheat and the Tares, Matthew 13:24-30, 37-43 (discussed below).

But Jesus repeatedly says true Christians who are "hated for my name sake" will experience suffering during the tribulation, and Jesus exhorts that whoever "endures" to the end of the tribulation "shall be saved." Matthew 24:9-13. The Paul-inspired message that we will not be here is precisely opposite of what Jesus said. It undermines Jesus's view which was to strengthen us to know salvation is at risk if we fail to endure the testing. 

A time of testing is good for us, and thus Jesus does not pray to take us out of the earth, but rather to endure it: "I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one." (John 17:15.) Our peace comes from dwelling in Jesus: "in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” (John 16:33.) 

Further, if the rapture were going to prevent experiencing of the tribulation by Christians, then Jesus makes no sense in this passage: 

Thus, when Jesus says one will be taken and another left, it is the evil who are taken, not the good. In the context, the evil being raptured is what fits Jesus's drawing a parallel to the days of Noah. So this is how that passage reads -- if we interpolate this points at the wicked:

Matt 24:37-40 "But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 "For as in the days before the flood, they [the wicked] were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark (Noah and family entered the ark 7 days before the flood), 39 "and [they – the wicked] did not know until the flood came and took them [the wicked] all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40"Then two men will be in the field: one [wicked] will be taken and the other left. 41 "Two women will be grinding at the mill: one [wicked] will be taken and the other left. 42 "Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming." (NKJ) 

Matt 13:47-50 "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea ("multitudes of people" Rev 17:15) and gathered some of every kind,48 "which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away.49 "So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just,50 "and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."(NKJ) 

Again in the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares, the evil are removed, leaving the righteous to inherit the earth:

Matt 13:37-43 He answered and said to them: "He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 "The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 39 "The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. 40 "Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 "The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42"and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43"Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!(NKJ) 

In Revelation, the saints are engaged in battle during a tribulation. "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." (Rev. 13:7.) But those given white robes are the ones that endured the tribulation spotlessly. "And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." (Rev. 7:14.) 

In Revelation it similarly says in 1:7: "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."

In Revelation, likewise there are 144,000 who are Jesus's followers when He sets foot on earth. They did not go up and come down. They were there. Then Jesus takes away evildoers on earth, leaving the 144,000 to inherit the earth. The precise picture in the OT of the 'rapture.' 

Thus, this proves Christians are not taken from before the tribulation but God intends them to endure it bravely. What also proves this is the raptured or taken are clearly stated in Revelation to be the evil ones:

²⁰And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

²¹And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. (Rev. 19:20-21.)

Is Revelation 3:10 Saying The Opposite?

Many pre-tribulation rapture-of-the-church advocates cite in support Rev. 3:10 which states:

Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. (KJV)

However,  one of the leading proponents of pretrib, Dr. John Walvoord (former president of Dallas Theological Seminary) states in his book The Rapture Question at pages 70-71 that "it may be debatable to what extent this (verse, Rev. 3:10) constitutes absolute proof for pretribulationism."

The verb for "keep" is also "guard" -- tereo. It appears this verse simply means God will "guard" us from the "temptation" but it does not imply God will remove us from having to patiently endure a time of trial..

The hour of "testing" is from PEIRASMOS. That Greek word comes from a word meaning literally "to examine or prove." The word "trial" is adequate. In James 1:2 and 12 James tell us "Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials (peirasmois)."

The word rendered "patience" in Rev. 3:10 is "hpomone" and it matches the same use with "peirasmos" in James 1:2, 12.

James 1:2 and v 12 tell us "Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials (peirasmois). Blessed is the man that perseveres (hpomenei) under trial (peirasmon)."

In sync, with similar vocabulary as Rev. 3:10 and James 1:2, 12, First Peter encourages preparation to endure a trial just before Christ returns. There is no assurance that nothing difficult will happen as you will escape earth due to your faith alone:

'The end of all things is at hand; therefore, be of sound judgment and sober spirit for the purpose of prayer...Beloved, do not be suprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing (peirasmos), as though some strange thing were happening to you; but to the degree that you share the sufferings of Christ, keep on rejoicing; so that also at the revelation of His glory, you my rejoice with exultation' (1 Peter 4:7, 12, 13, emphasis added).

So let's turn again to Rev. 3:10 which in the KJV says "you shall be kept from" from the "hour of trial."

Here tereo can be rendered as either to 'guard' or 'keep.'  In the Greek "will keep you from" is TEREO EK. The word TEREO means to "watch over protectively, guard" and with the preposition EK it carries the idea of being guarded or protected and rescued out from the midst of danger. If the idea of keeping one from entering were intended the preposition APO would have been used. So it is the idea of deliverance out from within the tribulation experience rather than an external deliverance from ever experiencing the tribulation.

Rev. 3:10 Promises Philadelphia Physical Protection In Danger From Evil

The notion involved is thus not to rescue us from any temptation / trial, but to rescue us from the spiritual and physical dangers which the world endures. Many commentators agree:

Fausett- "so as to deliver thee out of, not to exempt from temptation." (Fausett, Commentary (1871) Vol. 2 column 1 at 561.)

Swete- "to the Philadelphia Church the promise was an assurance of safe keeping in any trial that might supervene." (Henry Barclay Sweet, The Apocalypse of St. John (1906) at 55.)

Trench- "The promise does not imply that the Philadelphia Church should be exempted from the persecutions which should come on all other portions of the Church; that by any special privilege they should be excused from fiery trials through which others should be called to pass. It is a better promise than this; and one which, of course, they share with all who are faithful as they are - to be kept in temptation, not to be exempted from temptation."

Robert Gundry- "to keep or protect in a sphere of danger, and that because ek means emergence out from within, the combination of the two Greek words (TEREO EK) means to protect believers in a sphere of danger (the tribulation period), with a final emergence out from within this sphere." (Robert Gundry, The Church and the Tribulation (1973) at 53-59.)

Thus the rapture in Revelation 3:10 is by cutting short the tribulation, and removing the evil from the midst of Christians. Then in the process of removing the tares, God will protect the wheat who thereby inherit the earth.

Danger of Paul's View of Pre-tribulation Rapture

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D.